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The bible teaches a lot about "good" and "evil" but if God is the ultimate creator, isn't he responsible for evil? Perhaps evil is part of God's plan? Or maybe he is simply evil himself? Let's see what scripture says...


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God is responsible for "Evil"

  • Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light and the darkness, I make peace and create EVIL: I the Lord do all these things."
  • Deuteronomy 30:15 God says "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and DEATH and EVIL."
  • Amos 3:6 "Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be EVIL in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?"
  • Jeremiah 18:11 "Thus saith the Lord; Behold, I frame EVIL against you, and devise a device against you."
These verses affirm that God himself is the creator of evil and disasters. The Hebrew word used here for evil could also mean "wickedness", "hurt", "affliction" or "adversity". Not only is he the creator of evil, but he does it too
    • Objection : The Hebrew word used here for evil is "ra", however "ra" can also mean "calamity"
    • Response #1: Even if that's what it really meant: The event of the 1931 Yellow River flood in China killed at least a million people, the event 1556 Shaanxi earthquake killed about 800 thousand people, and the Bhola cyclone killed an estimate of 500 thousand people. Is God admitting he made these horrors?. Notice that Isaiah 45:7 speaks in the PRESENT tense, this means that God is still making natural disasters
    • Response #2: Deuteronomy 30:15 God says "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and DEATH and EVIL." This paraphrases Isaiah 45:7, which says God created bad things such as "Darkness" and "Evil" along with good things such as "Light" and "peace". It's quite clearly that God is the creator of all things as Isaiah 45:7 says, whether it's good or evil. In fact even Satan himself couldn't hurt Job and asked permission from God to do so; God even told him how far he could go. Does this sound like Satan is the creator of evil, or is he merely an agent of God?, Deuteronomy 30:15 even says God himself made Death rather that it came by man. The word "Death" here can also be used to mean natural/violent death and destruction. For example, Job 2:3 God says he was moved against Job, to destroy him WITHOUT A CAUSE. This shows that God has the ability to do evil
    • Response #3: what is the real meaning of "ra"?
  • Genesis 2:9

"And out of the ground the Lord God caused to grow... the tree of the knowledge of good and evil"

Here, the word translated as the opposite of good is "ra," the exact word used in the exact word used in Isaiah 45:7.
  • Genesis 3:22
...knowing good and evil...
one of the ways in which someone becomes like God is by knowing good and evil--again, "ra."
  • According to Genesis, God knew good and evil. He created a tree that was able to convey a knowledge of good and evil unto others. This seems to attribute to God a creative role in bringing evil unto the world.
  • When Moses received religious rituals from God, he suddenly tells Moses that the Hebrews are worshiping a golden calf. He was, after all, omniscient and his response was:
    • Exodus 32:10 "So now, let me be, that my anger may burn against the Hebrews and i may destroy them."
  • Moses immediately tries to get God to relax
    • exodus 32:11 "then Moses entreated the lord his god"
  • One excellent translation of this verse is "the five books of moses" by Everett Fox which states
exodus 32:11 "Moses soothed the face of yahweh his God..."
exodus 32:12 "turn away from your flaming anger, be sorry for the evil you intended against your people"
exodus 32:14 "and yahweh let himself be sorry concerning the evil that he had spoken of doing to his people"
In this dialog, there is no doubt that God can do evil even against his own people. Christians are just putting the theological cart before the translation horse when looking at Isaiah 45:7. The Bible repeatedly confirms what Isaiah 45:7.

"Acts of God"

The Bible teaches without a doubt that all natural disasters are either caused or allowed by God.

- Matthew 10:29-31:
"Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows."



Bad things perpetrated by God as documented in the Bible

Mark Twain once said, "It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

  • In Genesis 38:7-10, we read: “Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the LORD's sight; so the LORD put him to death.”

One could laugh easily at this, killing a firstborn just like that isn't what we would expect from God who was ready to forgive everybody's sin

  • In Genesis 6-8 God drowns everyone, except for Noah and his family. An estimated 200 million civilians die. If he saw them as evil then why did he create these people with the knowledge that they would turn out to be that way?, after all he is omniscient. And why would God drown the entire population of the world when a much less sadistic method exist such as simply snapping his fingers and vanished them instantly, after all, he is omnipotent. Millions of firstborns, animals, and little children who didn't even learn how to walk have been killed by God, why kill cute little rabbits and babies?, Could a just God destroy innocent life?

Sadistic God

God seems to do a lot of things just to be really mean and sadistic. If you are God and you're omnipotent, why torture people physically and emotionally when you can just change things to the way they should be in the blink of an eye? Unless you like to watch people suffer...

Abraham & Isaac: Torture your child for God

The one story most Christians know is the story of Abraham and Isaac, where God ordered Abraham to kill his son, Isaac, and present him as a "Burnt Offering." Abraham ties Isaac to a wooden alter (as instructed) and, knife in hand, gets ready to kill his son. Then, an angel stops him just in time and God let's him kill a ram instead. This story isn't about love or loyalty; it's about fear as in verse 12 the angel says, "now I know that thou fearest God."

So how many "Christians" would murder their child if God told them to? And what God would be worthy of respect that would ask for such a thing?

- Genesis 22:1-2,6,9,10-12:

22:1 And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

22:6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.

22:9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood.

22:10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.

22:11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.

22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.


God mandates genocide & looting of others

Christians have cited numerous bible references to justify various types of conquest and control over others. If you "resisteth" God's messengers, you get what you deserve:

- Romans 13:2:

"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."

Ask God and he'll give you whatever you want from the "heathens" - God says it's your inheritance:

- Psalms 2:8:

"Ask of me, and I shall give thee, the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession."

God mandates the invasion and takeover of foreign lands and says in no uncertain terms, there shall be no peace, no compromise, and no mercy. You must destroy these people "totally" and take all that they have.

- Deuteronomy 7:1-2:

When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you- 2 and when the LORD your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. [a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

On second thought, offer "peace" but really what you offer is slavery or death. Take the women, children, lifestock and anything else in the city as plunder for yourselves. This is what the "lord" gives you.

- Deuternomy 20:10-17:

When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby. However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy [a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you. NIV

God the torturer

Dismemberment, pestilence, cannibalism... nothing is too vile for the Lord to perpetrate upon others

- Jerimiah :

11:11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them.

11:14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.

15:3 And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the LORD: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.

15:14 And I will make thee to pass with thine enemies into a land which thou knowest not: for a fire is kindled in mine anger, which shall burn upon you.

19:3 And say, Hear ye the word of the LORD, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle.

19:7 And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

19:9 And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them.

21:6 And I will smite the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast: they shall die of a great pestilence.

51:20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

51:21 And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;

51:22 With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;

51:23 I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; and with thee will I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers.

Jesus will return and anyone who offends him will be burned alive

- Matthew 13:41-42:
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

More Bible evils yet to be organized

God entraps humans by placing the tree of knowledge in the garden and telling Adam and Eve not to eat of it. This is rather similar to placing a toy in front of a child and telling them they are not allowed to play with it. God created us with instinct, rebellion, and curiosity. Soon he punishes us for only doing what is part of our nature. Genesis 2:16.47

God now commands that all women must have health hazardous labors for Eve ate the fruit. In no way shape or form is it just that I must pay for the sins of my ancestors. Genesis 3:16

God caused sibling rivalry by favoring Abel over Cain, with absolutely no attempt at justification. This act of favoritism led to Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3-5

Genesis 7:23 He killed, intentionally, every man, woman, and child on the planet save eight of them.

God commands Hagar go back into servanthood and bear children for her master though she does not want to. Genesis 16:7-9

Genesis 19:23-25 God burns down a whole city (women and children included) simply because they were supposedly homosexual.

Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and that the Lord slew him. How was Er wicked? The Bible doesn’t give us this bit of information, only that Er was wicked in the sight of the Lord. Genesis 38:7

Genesis 38:10 God murders Onan for refusing to commit incest with his sister in law.

Exodus 12:29 God repeatedly tells Moses exactly what calamity he will next visit upon the Egyptians if the Pharaoh does not allow the Israelites to be set free from slavery. Then he tells Moses (also repeatedly) that he will harden Pharaoh’s heart, so that he will refuse to allow the Israelites to go, thus bringing a calamity upon his own people, as well as showing him the awesome power of the Israelites’ Lord. This occurs over and over, bringing calamity upon calamity upon the Egyptian people. What is troubling about this verse is that when god “hardens the pharaoh’s heart” he is interfering with the Pharaoh’s free will and ultimately bringing punishment on the Egyptians for something they are not responsible for. As a final punishment god decides to kill all the first born of Egypt. The lord reduced himself to murdering innocent kids when he could have simply freed the Israelites himself with his “omnipotent” power.

God punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third and fourth generations. Punishing a child for the sins of their ancestors is not very just. Exodus 20:5&34:7

God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to be carried out, and goes as far as Okaying beating them. Exodus 21:2-6

God sanctioned the selling of ones daughter. How can any being tell another to literally sell their child into slavery? Disgusting! Exodus 21:7

Exodus 22:18 God orders the death of witches, sorceresses and anyone who practices magic. Sadly enough, this verse was justification for the Inquisition.

Exodus 32:27 God ordered to be killed, 3,000 Israelites for no greater crime than worshipping a golden calf. I don’t know about you but death is a pretty harsh fucking punishment.

Leviticus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents and death for adultery. Gee, with these types of laws the population should be almost nil by now.

Once again god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot. Leviticus 20:13

Handicapped people must not approach the altar. Leviticus 21:16-23

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat.”

Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

Numbers 16:27 God buries alive Korah and his family.

Numbers 16:35 God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with Moses’ leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it. Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon - “…the men, the women, and the little ones.”

Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

Deuteronomy 3:3-7 God ordered Moses’ army to “utterly destroy” 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”.

Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance

A bastard can’t attend church “even to his tenth generation.” As if denying an innocent child rights to worship isn’t cruel. Deuteronomy 23:2

"God of Jesus: "God is love." (1 John 4:16) God of Moses: "Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man" (Num. 31:17)

God of Jesus: "Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me." (Mark 9:37) God of Moses: "Put to death men and women, children and infants" (1 Sam. 15:2-3)

God of Jesus: "Love does no harm to its neighbor" (Rom. 13:10) God of Moses: "He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded." (Josh. 10:40)

God of Jesus: "[The devil] was a murderer from the beginning." (John 8:44) God of Moses: "Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children" (Ezek. 9:6)

God of Jesus: "Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." (1 Peter 5:8) God of Moses: "Like a lion I will devour them." (Hosea 13:8)

God of Jesus: "Anyone who does not love his brother [is of the devil]." (1 John 3:10) God of Moses: "Go back and forth killing your brother and friend and neighbor" (Exod. 32:27)

God of Jesus: "[The devil] is a liar and the father of lies." (John 8:44) God of Moses: "Put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours." (1 Kings 22:23)

God of Jesus: "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy." (John 10:10) God of Moses: "Pursue, kill and completely destroy them." (Jer. 50:21)

God of Jesus: "He who does what is sinful is of the devil" (1 John 3:8) God of Moses: "Do not leave alive anything that breathes" (Deut. 20:16)

God of Jesus: "God so loved the world.." (John 3:16) God of Moses: "I will wipe humankind ..from the face of the earth." (Gen. 6:7)

God of Jesus: "Love your enemies" (Luke 6:27-28) God of Moses: "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them." (Num. 25:16-17)

God of Jesus: "For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone" (James 1:13) God of Moses: "[He] tempted Abraham" (Gen. 22:1)

Comparing certain descriptions of God in the Old Testament with certain descriptions of God of the New Testament is like comparing Jesus to Charles Manson. As seen in the Bible verses above, some of the Old Testament descriptions of God have a number of characteristics that certainly appear to be satanic. Of course, most descriptions of God in the Old Testament portray a Father of infinite love. The ridiculous Bible verses portraying God as a satanic figure only shows how some writers of the Old Testament were merely creating God in their own image."

""God" slaughtered innocent babies because of Pharaoh's stubbornness: "At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well.” (Exod. 12:29)

"God" had babies dashed to pieces and pregnant women ripped open: "The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:16)

"God" wanted children to be murdered as human sacrifices: "I let them become defiled through their gifts - the sacrifice of every firstborn - that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.” (Ezek. 20:26)

"God" threatened to have innocent children be devoured by wild animals: “I will send wild animals against you, and they will rob you of your children, destroy your cattle and make you so few in number that your roads will be deserted.” (Lev. 26:22)

"God" threatened to have children cannibalized: "If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.” (Lev. 26:27-29)

"God" ordered the genocide of women, children and babies: "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”” (1 Sam. 15:2-3)

"God" aborted fetuses and murdered children in answer to the prophet Hosea's prayer: "Give them, O Lord – what will you give them? Give them wombs that miscarry .... Ephraim is blighted, their root is withered, they yield no fruit. Even if they bear children, I will slay their cherished offspring." (Hosea 9:14-16)

"God" murdered a baby because of David's adultery: “Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan replied, "The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have made the enemies of the Lord show utter contempt, the son born to you will die." (2 Sam. 12:13-14)

"God" ordered people to kill their brothers, friends and neighbors: “Then he said to them, "This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.'" (Exod. 32:27)

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